Subject: Re: Lonesome Squirrel (part 2) From: David Mayo <mayo@lightlink.com> Date: 1996/05/24 Message-Id: <4o4oqu$r8b@light.lightlink.com> Sender: electra@light.lightlink.com Organization: Art Matrix - Lightlink Electra Gateway v2.4 Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On Fri, 24 May 1996 04:42:34 -0700, Ralph Hilton <ralph@xenologics.idiscover.co.uk> wrote: >I've been keeping up with the debate on Lonesome Squirrel. I spent 10 years at Flag and was there during the=20 >period Steve refers to below. After a conversation with a few people on IRC I agreed to post up a list of=20 >inconsistencies between LS and my own recollections of the FLB and Sea Org. > >This is installment 2 > >I refer to the chapters as numbered on Steve's web pages. > >LS06: > >1. "I received a call from the Deputy Guardian =7Fof Orlando" No such post. I concur. > >2. "At the New Years event at Flag on the eve of the Year AD30, >which was also known in wogdom as 1980, Peter introduced me to Wolly >Hooker, who was the Financial Planner for the Commodore's Messenger >Organization." No such post, no such person. I concur. > >3. "Emperor Xenu". He has never been referred to as an emporor by LRH nor any other >scientologist that I met. I concur. > >4. "The Marcab Confederacy was the planet in between Mars and Jupiter which exploded six >years after Xenu did this to us, and is now known as the asteroid belt." This is not in any >LRH issue I came across and conflicts with various LRH tapes that I don't have to hand. > I concur. >5. Steve has not done OT3. In Scientology the act of disseminating OT3 materials is taken to >be very criminal. For someone in the Sea Org to have done that would have got them >declared and debarred from advanced courses forever. It doesn't make sense that the non- >existent person would have done that. > I concur. >6." Ron was the valiant leader of the counter-rebellion, of course." In tape C5206C24F LRH >said (right at the end of the tape) that he wasn't here before 15,000 years ago. > On this point Hubbard has made other, inconsistent statements as to when he was or was not on earth or elsewhere. >7. "In fact, my suggestion was so well accepted, that within less than sixty >days, Ron made it part of standard Scientology dissemination policy!" I read every PL >coming out at that time and there was nothing like that issued. > I concur. Further, up until end of August 1982, had there been such a change in policy I would have known about it. >8. "Kevin told me that Ron had put out a Guardian's Order of the Day" LRH didn't write >Guardian's Orders of the Day. I don't think there was any such thing. > I concur. >LS07: > >1. "This time, it was the Master At Arms of Miami, Laurel Chesnee". Miami org doesn't have >an MAA. The term is only used in Sea Orgs. > I concur. >LS08: > >1. "Keeping Admin Working." I don't think there was a course by that name. > I concur. >2. "The audi=7Fting was part of the "Expanded Dianetics Series ", and I was checked on the E- >Meter in a Listing and Nulling Session which ass=7Fessed my reactions to= the words bodies, >babies, sex,doctors, trouble, upsets, sexual oddities, illnesses, ovaries, wombs and >guts ,42 as well as many others." The issue referred to is an LRH c/s for a p.c. in the middle >of a XDN. It is not run as a one off in the fashion Steve suggests. > I concur. >3. "After my five year staff contract was signed, I noticed that it had been >approved by a staff member named Ellie Bolger, whose post was the Fields >Financial Planner International." No such post. > I concur. >4. " Now, I've changed your Org Board. Who the hell ever organized everything under HCO?" >Personnel changes were not done that way! > I concur. >5 "No, before you ever heard of Scientology" This is mid ARC S/W. An auditor is trained to >not evaluate in that fashion. > I concur. >LS09: > >1."Then, sometime in 1978, Ken Delderfield, the Commanding Officer of LRH Archives >World Wide." Ken was i/c of the tapes to books project at Flag. > I concur. Further there was no such post. >2. ";The head of B-1 is Fred Hare". No his post was CS-G asst. > Yes, he was CS-G Assistant but that was years earlier than the relevant time period. During the relevant time period Fred Hare was no longer in the G.O. and was a "Franchise Holder", a.k.a., "Mission Holder". >3. "Things disappear out of here all =7Fthe time. Take Lavenda! You= wouldn't be talking to me if >she didn't steal that stuff from Gilman Hot Springs." Gilman was highly confidential then and >not even Flag staff were told of the location. > Neither LaVenda nor Fishman were at Gilman Hot Springs at least up until August 29, 1982, or I would have known. Further, Gerry Armstrong did not maintain the documents at Gilman Hot Springs, he had them elsewhere. If one or any of those documents had been stolen by LaVenda, she would not have stolen it from Gilman Hot Springs. >4."Sea Org members are a disciplined body of thetans who are at a much higher >level of purpose than Scientology organizations at large. I was in the >RPF's RPF once, back in '68." The RPF wasn't started until 1973. > I concur. >5. " Sea Org Combat=7F Information Center Unit of B-1." No such unit. The Sea Org and G.O. >were totally separate at that time. > I concur. >6. " Ron's two daughters, Diana and Suzette, got into a big fight with >the demonstrators and broke their signs. Do you know that the only >pictures on the six o'clock news were those of Suzette tearing up one of >the picketer's banners? " I am fairly certain that Suzette wasn't at the FLB then. > Suzette was living at Gilman Hot Springs at that time. Perhaps she could have made a visit to CW but in the most unlikely event that the "fight with the demonstrators" occurred, I would have heard about it on her return. >7."Bill Morey, who had also worked training other G. O. Agents in >many projects of high sensitivity under the direction of Bill Franks, who >had recently been appointed by Ron to fill the post of Executive Director >International." The G.O. wasn't under the E.D. Int. > I concur. >8. "I'm sure you hate Flag=7F as much as I do, but there are no basements= in Florida! They >would hit=7F water if they tried to build one." The stairs behind the kitchens in the F.H. led to the >basement. > I concur. >9. "These are from Ron's own orchard in Dunedin" LRH had left Dunedin years before. When >he was there it was kept very secret. > I concur. Further, if Fishman had any slightest knowledge of Hubbard in Dunedin there were other, far more inflammatory events, he would not have hesitated to depict. (Dramatic silence on my part while we pause to see if such information is forthcoming.) >10. "The next day, I got up at 7 A.M.,had a good breakfast at Flag's Lemon Tree Restaurant," >It didn't open for breakfast until 8 a.m. I concur. - ----------- I am not reading L.S. as I have neither the time nor the inclination. I have commented on these excerpts in the interests of accuracy of information of a.r.s. One poster on a.r.s. suggested that the book, L.S., had value in that it was representative of Scientologists(tm) and orgs and how people got into Scientology(tm) and their interaction with staff. It is not only not representative, it is atypical --as any Scn or ex-Scn would know and any critical thinker should know. Rev. David Mayo "So many have fallen, yet so far left to go ... 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