Subject: Re: Free Speech on a.r.s. vs. Orders from Ron Newman From: David Mayo Date: 1996/05/12 Message-Id: <4n619k$p9v@light.lightlink.com> Sender: electra@light.lightlink.com Organization: Art Matrix - Lightlink Electra Gateway v2.4 Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- On 8 May 1996 15:07:20 GMT, Steve Fishman wrote: >rnewman@kalypso.cybercom.net (Ron Newman) writes: > >> In article <4ml20i$ee0@dfw-ixnews1.ix.netcom.com>, >> Steve Fishman wrote: > [...] > >> Stop the vicious attacks on the Mayos. Leave my friends alone. >> Act like a member of a civilized community. > Steve, the three statements were separate; Ron did not say or imply that we were his friends. He knows very little about us --as is true of most posters on a.r.s. We are not his friends and he is not ours. If at some time in the future we were to become friends, I would be honoured. The same is true in both in regard to our having few, if any, friends on this group and as to my regard for many of the other posters. >Fuck the Mayos. Now you are being a hypocrite, Ron. You see the solo >NOTs shit flying across the screen. Anyone with the brain of a flea knows >what insanity and lunacy it is, and to me it is completely hypocritical >to mock the solo NOTs garbage while embracing the alleged creator and >perpetrators of this sack of mind control shit. I don't think I have to I am not the creator and perpetrator of NOTs(tm) even though I have admitted to having co-authored much of it. >remind you that Flo Barnett died because she equated her manic state with >her OT state. This poor woman had no one to turn to. False. The operation, in about April, 1985, after she had an aneurysm in the brain, left her with partial paralysis, poor co-ordination and memory loss. Her doctor told her that if she did not recover within a few to six months after the operation, she never would. The operation was done at UCLA, and her condition and medical treatment were monitored thereafter by her doctor and, I believe from UCLA. >The Mayos audited >her on this crap. False. We did not audit her on NOTs or AAV. Although she had done NOTs and Solo NOTs at the FSO some considerable time before she came to us, that did not have anything to do with her physical condition, medical treatment or death. >So did Jentzsch's wife in the cult. You don't know what she was audited on when she went back to the cult. > When she was in >her depressed state, she wanted to return to her manic ("OT") state. She >couldn't, so she killed herself. That's not only my opinion but the >opinion of Joyce Stephenson, her best friend. That's not what Joyce said at the time. > The Mayos' haven't taken >one iota of responsibility for the death of Flo Barnett. Sure Julie is I had known Flo for several years, we were friends and you have no knowledge of these events. >sorry she died, but has she admitted that the "Tech" of either the standard >brand or the squirrel brand was responsible? No, not a word. Neither "brand" of the "tech" was responsible for her death. RTC has raised this issue in litigation against us both in district court and in front of the Ninth Circuit. The court did not find as you (or RTC) suggested. > >> -- >> Ron Newman rnewman@cybercom.net >> Web: http://www.cybercom.net/~rnewman/home.html > >With Best Wishes, > > > >Steve Fishman This is my last response to you on this subject. Rev. David Mayo "So many have fallen, yet so far left to go ... " (finger for key) PGP ID: 1024/4D5EE559 1996/01/04 PGP Fingerprint: 0D 69 92 87 79 2F 38 72 FE 03 CE 51 31 D5 6D E9 ***************************************************************** -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.6.2 iQCVAwUBMZZcx+mCyCdNXuVZAQE9NAP+NbTAVjCocAlh350/OEgLLj2LjmTQpV7i d22arP1rih1dnWKXULKOtLiQJsNiOPPMNjCX0L6GihXhGIBz9wR92ngBZAWsZ38D KHLbGwk4nC2tTmMwVeYgsd9do7Touh6nSoXHQbCBfuC1OnBhrice4HVRVt6qX24z D4h4J8+fb60= =C9dW -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----